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Lipman Motors- Hartford, Connecticut

One of our newer members at the Nest is considering purchasing his first Eagle which is currently stored in the service area of a former dealership Lipman Motors of Hartford, CT. I asked if he could get some current pictures of it and from what he describes below I hope he gets some interior shots as well. Here is what "djvanyel" has to say in a recent reply:



Gladly… I'll take photos when I'm over there next… the inside is still somewhat as AMC left it: parts literature and other misc paraphernalia still on some of the walls, the in-ground lifts are all still in place, etc. The outside of the building, however, is pretty hideous, I'll warn you right now lol.

After extensive googling on the subject, I wasn't able to locate much on the dealership aside from that it was called Lipman Motors AMC/Jeep/Renault and it resided at 450 Homestead Ave. in Hartford. (credit to: Steven Clark's AMC pages- American Motors Jeep Renault Dealer Directory for the dealer info. )

Evidently the dealership began as a Nash dealership and maintained two locations: one at 133 Washington St. (beginning circa 1956?), and the other at 585 Prospect Ave., West Hartford (the original location est. 1945?). There are two old photos of Lipman's Washington St. location which can be viewed via the link included below. I work in that area so I intend on doing some checking on the status of the location tomorrow. I also live very close to Prospect Ave. so I will attempt to do some recon on their original HQ as well since I believe that both locations are still standing, albeit altered for their current uses. (Thanks to Brent Havekost for this nugget of info http://nashparts.com/Dealership/NashdealersCO.htm in his dealer listing page.) I'm unsure when the dealership began operating at the Homestead Ave. location, however judging from the building and the architecture/infrastructure in the shop area, I'd hazard a guess it's mid to late 60's. I'll see if I can get more accurate information on this because I know for a fact that Mr. Havekost has the closing date of this dealership incorrectly listed. There's a paper on the wall for the 1987 Model Year (a pic will follow :) ) and I believe some advertising literature from a tire place dated 1988 that I made sure to take a good look at.

Another link that kept popping up, although it might be of more interest to Pacer/Gremlin fans, is that evidently Lipman made a small name for themselves by making custom "Diablo" 360 V8 Pacers that could be ordered from and built by Lipman from a stock Pacer. (Info from the book AMC Muscle Cars by Larry G. Mitchell, p. 107; preview available on books.google.com) It's a brief mention, but interesting nonetheless.

I'll see what I can do to unearth anything else of historical value and pass it this way (most likely in another thread since this one is getting a little lengthy and I'm sure I can start one that's more topic-appropriate :) ). Also please feel free to reclassify this post if it fits better elsewhere. Hope this helps add some to your historical data. With any luck I'll end up with a die-hard Eagle that fittingly pays tribute to it's AMC heritage and we'll all know a bit more about the long lost past of AMC.

More to follow.

Here are some early pictures of this dealership from the Havekost site:

Nash Automobile Dealership History



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Can't wait to see those current pics!

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Especially anything from the interior…
mike
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Hello all.  As it happens, I have a little update to this story already.  I just happened to be driving around my neighborhood today and decided to take a run down Prospect Ave. and, as I thought, the original Lipman Motors dealership is still standing.  The property has been subdivided and (what I assume to be) the showroom has been split into a multi-unit store front.  From what I could see from the street, the service shop/garage in the rear is still being used as an auto shop.  I didn't have my camera with me so no pics yet tho.

The photos attached above are of the Washington St. location which I believe is still at least partially standing, but that area has been slightly rehabilitated in recent years, so there may not be anything really interesting but I will see.

As for the Homestead Ave. location, it's really nothing spectacular aside from the fact that it's got some old AMC documents/paraphernalia still hanging on the wall behind what was the parts counter.  I'll warn you all that the shop is in pretty rough shape, but it really hasn't been modified very much.

Hope this was useful.  I'll pass along more soon.
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Happy to see you found your way here. 
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Welcome to the show, djvanyel… :)  I like this little side-trip distraction.  Thanks for contributing to The Lost Dealership Project. :D
mike
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Route 66 Rambler said

Especially anything from the interior… mike

Ask and ye shall receive… I only took a few photos because I was focusing more on the eagle parked in the back of the shop than the shop and subsequently ran out of time to take pictures. I took a few quick snaps of the interior and some of the fun curiousities I've discovered so far. As I said, the place is in pretty rough shape, but everything is pretty much "stock", so to speak. But without further ado, here's some of the pics I took: The east side of the shop (general service and repair). There's a rather large in-ground lift with pits along this side about halfway down (pic to come when it's not covered with a vehicle).



A view of the west wall looking from the rear to the front (with my P71 peeking out in the distance)



A shot of the rear of the shop (body shop area)



And one with (soon to be) my dirty little eagle showin us it's rear… end :D



The parts department (also the only heated part of the shop now): A view towards where the counter used to be



View of the parts racks and office(?)



Some old literature pasted above the counter area



Parts prices as of June 1st 1988 (pretty cool huh?)



As I said, I was pressed for time so I didn't have too much time to focus on the building. There's also the other two locations that I've yet to stop and photograph. I'll add more pictures as I go along, probably after the holidays. Enjoy!

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Looks to have been a good sized shop.  The lighting did not seem that good, hope it was better "back in the day."

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Thanks so much!  Great Christmas Present here, even though it's a different store than the ones I knew, some things are so much the same I'm almost there again…
mike
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Great update, thank you!  :)

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Hi-

Was doing a search on Lipman Rambler and came across this forum, lucky for me.  My parents purchased all of their Nash's, Ramblers and AMC's from this dealership, first from the Washington Street Location (now CT State Offices) and latter at the huge Homestead Ave location.  The Homestead location had a big showroom on the top level, a smaller showroom that could hold 2-3 cars a floor down from that, and the service area just below that.  The large showroom is now an Auto Parts Store, with the lower showroom and service area unused as you can see from the posted pictures. You can see how big the Washington Street Dealership was from Iowa Eagles Original post of Brent's pictures, the Homestead location was even bigger. The Homestead Ave location was around in late 50's when my parents purchased their 59 Rambler six.  Hartford CT had to be the only city that had two huge AMC dealerships owned and operated by the same family.  I remember my father telling me one dealership was Hudson and the other was Nash.  When AMC killed Nash and Hudson in favor of the Rambler brand, Lipman kept both dealerships open.  The Washington Street location was first on Prospect Street in West Hartford before moving to the larger Hartford location.  Even the West Hartford location was a pretty good size.

In front of to the large Homestead Ave showroom there was a large lot out front where new and used cars were stored. I would estimate that the lot could hold 100 or more cars, and was always packed.  The AMC dealership was sold in 1988 and was moved to East Hartford to become the Jeep/Eagle division of Burnside Motors (a Chrysler / Plymouth Dealership), where Jeeps are still sold today.  Lipman then bought a Chevy Dealership on Burnside Ave in East Hartford and started operating Lipman Chevrolet two dealerships away from the relocated Jeep / Eagle dealership.  Lipman had Colonial Leasing in back of the Chevy dealership that was first a division of his AMC dealership, then latter the Chevy.  On the floor of the leasing company was some classic cars Harvey Lipman (son (I think) of the original owner) owned including a perfect Nash Healey.

Lipman Chevy wasn't around long, a victim of the economic downturn of the early 90's.  I think I remember reading that bad leases though Colonial brought the whole thing down. Last I knew Harvey Lipman was selling cars from Florida on eBay.  Tried to get hold of him in 2004 to be the guest speaker at the AMCRC National held in New England, but my emails went unanswered.
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Thanks a lot, 65rambler, and welcome to the historical free-for-all we call The AMC Heritage Forum.  That is one gorgeous Ambassador in your avatar pic.

Thanks for participating, feel welcome anytime…  8)
mike
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More great info, welcome 65rambler!

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Gee, I forgot to welcome 65Rambler as well.  Yes a really sharp '65 you have there!  And some more great info on a former dealer.  Sounds like he did well for AMC.

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Lipman did great for AMC.  If AMC could have signed up a few more dealers like that, they probably would still be around.  AMC's in the Hartford area were as common as Chevy's and Ford's.  The street I grew up on had 7 houses, with 3 Ramblers, 2 Chevys, a Pontiac and a Ford residing at the houses.  Yup, on the street I grew up on AMC out numbered brand X.  Lipman was always a top dealer, right up to the end, Geroge Romney himself even mentioned them as a top dealer in the book he wrote in the early 60's.

My high school even had the driver ed cars provided by Lipman.  I took lessons on a 74 Matador X Coupe, and also took my driving test in that car.  Mike Joy was my driving instructor, he used to call races weekends at a local track.  He is now an announcer for NASCAR.
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Exterior Pics (first installment)

Well, after a bit of a delay, I've finally acquired a few pictures of the outside of the Lipman AMC and original Lipman Motors dealerships. There aren't too many, mainly because I was loosing the light and it was a kinda crummy photo shooting day anyway. But here's a few tidbits that I was able to capture, more to come most likely.

Lipman Motors founding location at 585 Prospect Ave.

Front Facade (showroom?)




Side driveway and service department?




Lipman Jeep/AMC/Renault at 450 Homestead Ave.

The side showroom front (now the Gateway Plaza, complete with hideous paint job.)




Service Dept. entrance and waiting area? (also formerly known as Austin Race Car Storage)




That's all I have for now. Stay tuned.

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Now a liquor store.  Kind of sad, in a way.    Thanks for the new pictures.

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Thanks for the pics! The original location looks like a great old building.

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Well, this is one dealership we've been finding out plenty about.  This is absolutely fascinating.  Like I've said before, a hidden civilization, right in front of our eyes, that you have to learn to see…
mike
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Just wanted to chime in, I remember Lipman motors well.  Found lots and lots of info on this dealer in the Hartford Courant.  Including their first advertisement in 1946!  Morris Lipman sold used cars before becoming a Nash dealership.  He and his wife had a really nice modern home out in West Hartford, which his wife Blanche lived in until the late 1990s.  

The dealership is just up the street from me, but is now a parts retailer and self storage facility, and there is also a photocopy place there.
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Howdy, Ramblerboy.  Welcome to The AMC Heritage Forum.  I'll make sure to add the pics already posted before into this thread in the next day or two.  We've just moved into new software, and I'm busy getting the pics restored into the new software.

I'd love to see the things you have found in the Courant.  Off topic note:   :offtopic:  The Courant was the symbol for the Packard Corporation and the hood emblem for their cars, as well as the name of their corporate newsletter.  All I really know about the bird is that it's in the pelican family.  Packard is important to us in some ways, because Packard was about an inch away from becoming part of the AMC family back in the '50s…

At any rate, I'd like to see some of the info and ads you have located for Lipman, they seem to have quite a story overall, as did most of these dealers.
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